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Watermarks and what they're good for

Journal Entry: Fri May 2, 2014, 10:55 AM
Everyone by now has heard of hot topic right? 

That hippie dippy store that caters to today's fads. 

Well it's not so happy when they're making a profit off our fan art or original works. 

tumblr n4w0cmfXx01rrmfp3o2 500 by KashimusPrime

This is not the first time Hot Topic has been under fire for their art theft. They've stolen designs from several artists before. 

This work was originally designed by rismo who even acknowledged that they never sold their rights to the fan image. 

My Neighbor Jake by rismo


tumblr n4w0cmfXx01rrmfp3o1 500 by KashimusPrime

This is why I watermark my fan works. To keep companies like Hot Topic from stealing my designs and fan works. Watermarks stops companies from taking our designs and making a profit off it. Watermarks may be ugly, but they're useful in keeping us out of the courts with law suits on these types of companies. 

In a way, watermarks are a safety net. So shut up about how watermarks are ugly. They keep us hard working artists out of financial trouble.

Update: 

deviantART cannot sell our works to companies like welikefine or Hot Topic without our written consent. This was a case where the designers who work under Hot Topic's pay roll got lazy and decided to slap a fan work on a shirt. 



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:iconsilver-of-the-night:
Silver-of-the-night Featured By Owner Edited Oct 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I know this is old news, but i was in a store last weekend and i found this
forbiddenplanet.com/118384-adv…

(hopefully you are able to see it ) 
I saw the bag in the store and the image came to mind, the store is called 'forbidden planet' and i have no clue if that was given permission.


I wanted to drop this by to you in case and may be best to get hold of the artist just in case.  and i have contacted the artist to let them know just in case.

the store is my favourite place and i will be shocked if it comes to be the worst. 
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It likely wasn't, you should notify Rismo on dA about it. The only thing he allowed was a cover of the comics. Unless the company that used that fan art as a cover okayed the bag. Either way you should deffo talk to Rismo about it. 
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Silver-of-the-night Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I did give them a note here on DA, there was only one bag in to store and it's there online.

I am not sure if there are any stores there in the usa, but i hope to here a reply at some point.
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MauEvig Featured By Owner May 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
So does Welovefine actually steal people's art too?
It's a right shame. I actually like shopping at Hot Topic, and it's hard to even find one around here (I often have to order stuff online).
Not so sure I want to patronize them now.
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Unless it's one of the artists that they accepted, no, they as a whole do not steal works. It all falls onto a single lazy person when art is stolen. 

I stopped giving them my business long ago when I discovered they stole several things from people. 
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ShilaDaLioness Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Isn't it called WeLoveFine, not WeLikeFine? :P
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I haven't been to it in a while so you may be right :lol:
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner May 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
and just another reason Hottopic is becoming one of my most hated stores T.T and I use to get all of my clothes there too before justin bieber T.T welp they have officially lost another customer...THOUGH i would like to point out that while hottopic does sell this they are not the creating company of the shirt and thus did not steal the art. They sold it yes but technically they are not the thevies just an unfortunate third party to the theft.

Just like target and walmart and such they are just used to sell merchandise that they have bought off of another company.so sadly hottopic could not have known that they had copy written product in their store as they did buy the product from someone else to be able to put in their stores. Hopefully they will do the correct thing and remove the product from their stores (or at least reimburse the artist with little hassle.) but you should have looked to see who the creator of the shirt was as that is the person that has stolen the art.
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree. I use to get all my anime shirts there when I went through my weaboo phase. Then I was alerted through a journal about Hot Topic's art theft and that was the end of that joy ride. 

Luckily Walmart and Target stores understand and will remove merchandise if it's questionable and brought up. I don't think Hot Topic posts who their 'designers' are. And I do know that they order shirts from welikefine because it seems to me in my area they're teetering on the Brony level rather than the rock band geek. Nothing against Rock Band geeks as I'm one myself. But seeing Pony shit piled up to the rafters is a bit much. 
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
when they started selling bleach blue jeans I was like "Nope, I'm out." 

Most stores wont post anything about their designers as they come from a different company which has those designers work for them. YOu can get the company that made the shirt from the tag. That is the only way you will be able to find anything out about the designers is by contacting the creating company. but yea I just want them to go back to the goth they where before T.T I like that stuff....I can't find my clothes anywhere now I have to order them all. T.T
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Man that sucks :c 

I hate that when you find something you like, they take it away from you. It's not fair. I found the magical healing properties of Vick's greaseless cream and now it's gone. I can't even order it online BI 
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
LOL I've never heard of the greaseless cream... but damn that really freaking sucks. I'd keep looking you never know you may be able to find it again....
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's why I never quit looking. And the reason you've never heard of it is because Vick's  never advertised it. And yet there are hundreds of folks who are demanding they restock it. I only pray that they do. 
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I hope so too...just so I can grab it and test it out lol you got me curious about it now XD LOL
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aww I'm sorry XD 

But it is amazing stuff. I hope you get to experience its wonder one day. 
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Al3xGuerra Featured By Owner May 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Though it be not the hound's habit
To eat chaff, yet will he warn off
An ox that commeth to the barn
Thereof to take up any food.
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Say that again in plain english please? 
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:iconal3xguerra:
Al3xGuerra Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
That is english.....
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No, it's a riddle wrapped in an enigma. 
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:iconredthegamr:
RedtheGamr Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Wow... :/ Great move, Hot Topic. AMAZING job, DA. 
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It wasn't dA's fault in the end. What was informed was packaging policy. So blame that one on tumblr's fault as always for misinformation. dA will never sell our works without our written permission. 
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sugarteacat Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I really regret making that tumblr post, but I only wanted to raise awareness about Hot Topic, because it recently collaborated with the Homestuck T-shirt contest, so I wanted to artists to protect their designs from the monstrosity of Hot Topic.  But then some other user decided to twist my words and involve DeviantART (the only source for me to inform rismo ), god knows why.
So yeah, in summary: Hot Topic lacks any originality, and DA would never sell their user's art royalty free.
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I understand. And it certainly worked with some help. This journal got posted onto Hot Topic's facebook page letting them know that we're mad as hell and we ain't going to deal with their shit no more. 

Once the information was cleared to me, I edited it out and fixed it, letting folks know that dA would never sell our works without our written consent. And the person who twisted your words has since deleted it and apologized. Last I heard.

Fanmly have to stick together :dummy: 
(Fanmly Noun; fandom bonding together and looking out for each other like a family, fandom+family)
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sugarteacat Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Thank you for understanding.  Its crazy to go on their FB page because a lot of the comments are angry (and they should be).

Ahaha I should use that term more often! Fanmly sounds friendly already! d:
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
We started a revolution! 

Well if Verizon can do it with Framly, why can't we? 
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:iconsugarteacat:
sugarteacat Featured By Owner May 9, 2014  Student Digital Artist
 Vive la Revolution!
I guess we can start a fanmly d:
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yay fanmly! 
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pinkpeppermints Featured By Owner May 3, 2014
Another thing that will help prevent theft from companies like this it to not upload your best high quality images.  Reduce the resolution of the size of the images and this will usually deter companies from taking your work, because when they try to enlarge and print it, it will not come out looking very good.
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So I've been told. I'll definitely keep this in mind when I upload future works. 
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:iconluke-4d:
luke-4d Featured By Owner May 3, 2014
..what about the Audi car and logo? XD laughed hard
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eh? 
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XxMagpieWolfxX Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Student General Artist
omg that is so dissapointing that somebody would do this! >:C
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And yet, Hot Topic has been stealing as far back as 2008. 
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XxMagpieWolfxX Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Student General Artist
Someone really needs to get serious and like sew them!  The only thing that isnt bad about this is they left the signature, aperantly.  But still it is horrible to use someone else's art without permission to get money...
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sue* 

Actually they didn't leave the signature, they erased it out too. At least the offending merchandise got removed. 
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:iconxxmagpiewolfxx:
XxMagpieWolfxX Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Student General Artist
Oh sorry for the typo and wow.  That's even more dissapointing to top it off...
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No worries c: 

Indeed. 
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:iconorenji--kun:
Orenji--kun Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
what about using the creative commons license?
(CC)
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You may have to ask a friend of mine Burichu about that. I'm sure she can answer that question as I am unfamiliar with and don't use the (CC) license. 
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:iconorenji--kun:
Orenji--kun Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
hang on, your friend hasn't been on dA for 460 weeks...Confused 
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'll let her know to check her dA. She occasionally pops on when she needs to. 
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:iconorenji--kun:
Orenji--kun Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
occasionally...once every 9 years...
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:iconorenji--kun:
Orenji--kun Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
ok, thanks
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:iconalriandi:
Alriandi Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Student Digital Artist
gaaaaaaaah, quit saying you got permission from CN. CN doesn't legally represent :iconrismo: therefore it is still stolen. CN owns the characters not the artwork.
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
App again? 
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:iconalriandi:
Alriandi Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Nah just looking at Hot Topic's posted and replies on its facebook page
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah. 
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:iconmorikun-rinari:
morikun-rinari Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Student Artist
I'm not going to buy anything from Hot Topic again until they get their shit together...
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I doubt they ever will so I've pretty much stopped going. 
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:iconmorikun-rinari:
morikun-rinari Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Student Artist
Also, I haven't been going there lately. I don't see a lot of cool stuff there lately so I have more reasons to stay out of Hot Topic...for now.
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